I'm not sure how generally applicable this is, but I found it interesting:

A study on the effectiveness of different kinds of medical masks against covid transmission. The researchers found that the ACI 3120 N95s (the duckbill masks I like) are 98-99% effective at blocking exhaled virus particles. However, surgical masks and a specific kind of KN95 masks were both less effective than N95 masks; surprisingly, Powecom KN95s were less effective than surgical masks.

The researchers didn't train anyone on how to use the masks, which is a more realistic test of real-world effectiveness, because most people aren't doing fit tests, and many aren't reading the instructions that come with the masks.

The study was testing how effective the masks would be in preventing a person who had covid from spreading the virus to people around them, not how well the mask wearer is protected from viruses in the air. not how well they protect the wearer from viruses in the environment.

The article notes several limitations, including a small sample size; that all the study subjects were young adults; and that it may not generalize to different models of N95s or KN95s. Also, the study was testing how effectively the masks would block transmission if the wearer had covid, not how effectively wearing a mask protects the wearer.

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[Edited the first paragraph to clarify that they only studied one kind of KN95s.]
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From: [personal profile] joseph_teller


I can never understand why they constantly have done tests within such limited populations and always the assumption of transmition of the wearer rather than their protection or the various situational environmental locations (Enclosed environment, outdoor exposure, pressurized exposure with recycled air, weather multiple persons wearing masks are involved, etc.).

The results become meaningless if they insist on the limits they are using (in this case not even testing a wide range of products).

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From: [personal profile] mindstalk


Limited population and masks: probably because of limited grant/budget.

People do study protection of the wearer. But demonstrating protection against disease is much more involved: you either need to deliberately try to infect people in a lab (hopefully with some more benign virus), or to track a lot of people for a long time, and that has problems like "how well and how often did they wear a mask?", aka "did the mask fail or did they not wear a mask at the wrong time?"

Note that this study was simply measuring virus particles escaping the mask, not lowered infection rates or something, and the reverse of that -- how many particle get into a mask -- is done all the time; it's how N95s are certified and how employees are fit tested for them in the workplace.

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From: [personal profile] purplecthulhu


The best masking review paper I know of can be found here:

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/cmr.00124-23

It combines the results of over 100 studies so should provide the breadth and depth to get a clear picture.
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I am astonished to see they found cloth masks to be more effective than KN95. I've always thought of the KN95 as "next best to N95." I still think it's reasonable to have the synagogue rule of N95 or KN95 masks inside the building, but maybe I can stop fighting with That Guy who always wants to wear his cloth mask instead.
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From: [personal profile] mindstalk


KN95 masks were both less effective than N95 masks

More precisely, as they admit, one stiff KN95 was worse than the cloth mask they tried.

The strongest conclusion from the paper is "wear a duckbill".

Also I've messed up; somehow I thought they'd tested Vflex, not some other duckbill. Oops.

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From: [personal profile] otter


Anecdotal note - when I had Covid this summer, I wore the N95 duckbill any time I wasn't shut in my bedroom with a fan blowing out my window. My son that lives with me didn't get sick.
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From: [personal profile] anagramofbrat


I remember that study was circulating around a month back. It seems that the common denominator for effectiveness was how well the mask fit to the face, which does explain the finding that cloth seems to do better than surgical or KN95s.

seems like any mask worn and "sealed" properly is far better than none at all. I've gradually gotten back in the habit since it seems everyone is going down with another round of Plague this summer.
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